It's WARMINSTER, ya dip

I live in the Developement right above the Jefferson Creek Appartments and I would not move because Warminster is a safe place to live. Warminster Police Department keeps our neighborhood well protected. They can not help Crazy People acting out and causing problems in the neighborhood. I had helicopters flying above my house and did not feel like I was in danger. THANK YOU TO THE WARMINSTER POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALL THE OTHERS WHO CAME TO HELP THEM OUT WITH THIS CRAZY PERSON!!!

More like a good place to more from. Wow sad.

This is insane. What is this world coming to? That's like 3 shootings in 2 months. These gun laws are unacceptable. I am shocked and should not feel unsafe in a good neighborhood.

To more from? What the hell does that mean?

@brit gun laws are not the problem. I am sure it is an illegal gun this guy is firing.

@j *move

Why is this breaking news in Newtown?

Yikes

Ed, it means he's an illiterate moron. lol... narrow minded. Shall I go on?

Here we go with the gun comments

oh sorry tooshiebubble, we know you're in your little "bubble" and news from a few towns away is not important to you.

I agree with taking automatic weapons off the streets but that's not the only thing to blame here.. there are crazy people everywhere and they are unpredictable. I live in Warminster, right up the road from this shooting. I feel safe, even while choppers hover above my house, we cannot live in fear everyday of things that are so unpredictable and out of our control.

Warminster, the new kensington with trees.

@dan g automatic weapons are not allowed to be owned unless you go through an ATFE extensive background check and have about 15,000 laying around

oh my some anger going on here with these comments "sassychikhun" and "ANON YMOUS" someone may want to forward their info to police.

@dodge, or you steal them

(well not me, but the criminals)

Last I checked it was agains the LAW to shoot at people. What good are laws to people that don't follow them.

@DJ WRONG WEBSITE.
STAY EDGY.

I understand that, I am saying that it is not the guns that are shooting people.. someone has to pull the trigger. And changing gun laws however u view it does not change the fact that there are people out there that will take another persons life. Gun or no gun, crazy people will act out and that is unpredictable.. I have no intent on getting into gun law debates.. bottom line I just wish PEOPLE would stop senseless violence.

Yes, it is Scary to have a CRAZY PERSON IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD CLOSE TO YOUR HOME WITH A GUN....BUT THE GUN IS NOT THE PROBLEM OR THE ISSUE...THE PROBLEM AND ISSUE IS THE CRAZY PERSON...GUNS DO NOT CONTROL THE PERSON...THE PERSON CONTROLS THE GUN...MORE PEOPLE OWN GUNS LEGALLY AND RESPECT THE GUN LAWS...THE GUNS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM...THE CRAZY PEOPLE ARE THE PROBLEM!!!

well said dan g.

Thanks for the clarity dee

Um did anyone see the post stating they r the shooter are are all u people to busy bitching!!!

I read something a few months ago that we've closed something like 90% of the mental hospitals in this country in the last 25yrs. Where do you think the nuts are going? They're walking the streets doing nonsense like this. It's societies fault we have so much violence these days. We need to be making massive mental health control laws, not gun control laws. Lets treat the sick people before they do these things.

Yes I saw it and I left a comment with the screen name they used - hopefully the patch can forward to police

You should all be worried about how crazy they are, not gun control or stupid arguing! It should be about is everyone if the officers ok? I am around the corner & here choppers they are at a stand off! U never know what someone will do! If u feel safe then u are a moron especially if there is a crazy person shooting at the cops that are trying to protect you.

It was sassychikun and they removed the comment already

Yes, I'm sure we will hear about that idiot on the news someday but I highly doubt it is anything close to true.. must feel "cool" to pretend ur a killer/shooter.. that Moron should go back to playing videogames

Try on the news now & he is in the loose:( so for the ones that feel safe think again.

This is crazy I live right behind the action cant see much but can hear the police trying to talk to someone over a bull horn

I say I feel safe because I refuse to live in fear of things I cannot control.. everytime there's a shooting somewhere should I hide under a bed? Sorry, heidi, u may think I'm a Moron for feeling safe. Police are doing their job. I have nothing to fear.

If you DO NOT FEEL SAFE IN YOUR OWN HOME DESPITE WHAT IS GOING ON OUTSIDE YOUR HOME...THEN YOU ARE THE MORON AND YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOURSELF...I FEEL SAFE BECAUSE I HAVE PROTECTION TO PROTECT MYSELF AND MY FAMILY...

Well said Dan G.

The police are urging people to stay inside, doesn't mean dude is on the loose.. and if so, he'd be sorry to come to my house. I am safe, thanks for the concern..

JoJo thanks for clarifying that because that scared the crap out of me. I have friends who live there & family in the nearby area also.

JoJo do you know which building this is in?

I hope they catch this crazy asshole! We dont need anyone like this out on the street. The cops need to get this guy now! I need to know my kids are going to be safe.

JoJo please update us when you have something to share my in laws live there and are scared

you can listen in online on the scanner...
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=cwp&ctid=2249

I live in the complex heard every shot and have seen all the action. Scared i am not. The guy is clearly unstable and unstable people should not have access to weaponry. So kick on the surround sound and watch a good movie.

Bldg 2000

If someone is dumb enough to shoot at police officers chances are he's not walking away from it.. I don't think they take that lightly.. unnerving for sure April.. but our people in uniform got this covered. Ur kids and my 4 year old should sleep fine.

J, with regard to your Kensington comment.....I guess that would apply to Doylestown too? since according to the last line of the article police there had standoff with a shooter last father's day?

It was quiet for about 20 mins, thought it was over but the negotiator is back talking. Apparently the gunman's first name is Andrew & they have been calling him but hes not answering his phone. I'm also listening to the live radio feed & they are preparing to go in. I think the worst is over so I'm try to get some sleep.

coroner is at scene but wont say if its the shooter

i just got word that a woman was killed and he is not dead :(

God forbid we talk about gun control, or making any attempt to limit access to guns. Yep, it's all about the "nut jobs" and "crazies" as some of you call them. Yes, it sure is true that mental health is a real problem in our society and there are too many folks not getting the help they need... but for God's sake, consider that the access too many people have to weapons is part of the problem.

I also need to get home. And am right near the pool....

We just got a call that they are evacuating all of Jefferson on the Creek and everything became really quite.

mc - do you live there? I do but couldn't get in so at family's house right now until we can go back home

Is everyone being evacuated I live there and can't get home

only think i have heard is that someone is dead and it is not the shooter , it sounds like it will be a long nite with this

i hear the entire complex is being evacuated ........
I know they opened one of the schools for people to goto . I do not live there but know someone on scene

The police are holding a briefing now; we should know a little more soon.

also check this for updates
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Gunman-in-Apartment-Fires-Shots-at-Police-Cops-191923991.html

Anything else you hear, please post. Thank you!

Guns only kill people when people pull the trigger!I think psych evaluations should be done before you purchase a gun and every year then after owning one.We have driving licenses so why not one for gun ownership?

Warminster was not the gladiator academy, that it has become, just a mere 15 years ago. It's becoming indistinguishable from Philly.

Thank you. I'm not by a tv. Would love to know the details.

I think everyones concern rite now is safety and getting back into their homes , and getting this nut out , before he harms people . I dont think talking about gun laws and control are anyones concerrn in this situation !

I doubt the entire complex is being evacuated considering I haven't heard or seen any police in my area of the complex. Also seems like everyone in my area is sleep, its been quiet for about 45 mins now.

Why isn't SWAT being instructed to take action.? If you have to use smoke bombs or some sort of explosive, I advise they do so. Smoke him out of the building. Do something besides negotiating with the shooter.

Fox news has reported they are considering evacuating entire complex, and someone on scene is the one that told me that info. i dont understand why tho .

Is the entire complex really being evacuated?? I hope everyone is okay!

Shut up about gun laws. Isnt it obvious that if we had stricter gun laws this type of stuff wouldn't happen, because as we all know criminals follow the law...

The reasons for evacuation would be: risk of unintended cross fire casualties, people "popping" their heads out to see how things are going and risks of fire from certain types of tear gas used in these situations. If you live there, just follow police instructions and you should be fine.

I understand the precautionary reasons behind safety and so forth. I am perplexed though, on how long authorities were going to negotiate with the shooter especially when the shooter was shooting at authority to begin with. I'd think that any negotiations would be off the table after being shot at. Did the shooter make any demands?

What did the brief say? Any confirmed news or updates?

ABC6 ( on the comments ) a resident there at the Apt said a neighbors body is in a hallway , so my question is .....where is this nutty shooter at , do they stil have contact with him ? is he dead ?? this is something that needs to be updated ! My heart goes out to all the people that live the and cant even get into their homes

Ever think the gunman is reading all this too? Don't give the a**hole any insight to the goings on he may not be aware of. Nothing on the news and no more helicopters? It's called a media black out, and it's for that very reason.

Doesn't anybody know this "Andrew"?

How do you know his name is Andrew?

We have a video update: http://warminster.patch.com/articles/police-standoff-continues-in-warminster-video#video-13409922

I know the name was on one of the news websites , either 6 or 10

It is a large complex and there are a lot homes and families that police need to secure safely. More evacuations are currently underway. A evacuation shelter has been set up at William Tennent High School for anyone displaced by this event. People shouldn't be so quick to criticize the police. This isn't a TV show and can't be resolved in an hour.

Did anyone else get a call around 11:30 about Jefferson on The Creek Buildings 19-20 are being evacuated. In the near by apartments and homes people should not come outside. I live in the developement next to them near McDonald Elementry, and I got this call on my home phone. Did anyone else??

If they're evacuating this many people, they're getting ready to use explosives.

CR what did it say? And does any1 realize this is not the

Did you get the call it was an automated voice recording and it came from a number reading 000-000-0000??

@ Dee - No never received a call from that number.

I am trying to figure out why they called us to tell us...we don't live in Jefferson on the Creek but very close to it...Just wondering who else got the call...thank u CJK..

No problem Dee... Stay safe.

I just tried to get in. They are escorting ressidennts back to the higher numbered buildings. But anywhere near the office or pool is no go.

CR what did it say? And does any1 realize this is not the Warminster it was 10 years ago. I used to be a Philly resident but came up here to get away from the drugs, guns, & violence. Yes it is partially to blame county funding because its hard to get health insurance & u need it to be seen @ a mental hospital. Yes I would say its about the same as Kensington as I used to go to Kensington myself to cop thank God I'm in recovery. The Warminster police haven't had enough experience with these issues as Warminster used to be beautiful & safe but is getting worse as the days go on. Having your own armed protection CAN be used against you. Believe it or not. I live right up the street in Bucks Landing a.k.a "da Ville" & I would call it a little Philly. There's just as much access to drugs & illegal drugs. I personally am not afraid to walk around my complex or Kensington. This place changes at nighttime & most are unaware due to having jobs & sleeping the night away. If you're scared to live in your own apartment or suggest you move.

Just mind your own business. Don't say anything rude that would tick somebody off because it could be the wrong person. It could be a looney bin for all you know. So I suggest if you are scared just stay out of the drama & keep to yourself. I hope everyone is safe.

The police scanner isn't as active as before. They need to smoke him out of there. This is getting out of hand it's been hours.

Kim you are correct. Just confirmed

Ah didn't know that! Thanks Kay

Y'all need to realize people like him are trying to make Warminster look hard when in reality it is not. I leaved in Warminster for about 11-12yrs(hardly chilled there, not my crowed) and it is full of racist cops & others, snitches, repping gangs that they ain't even bang, let me take u to were the real gang bangers y'all be all dead anyways full of druggies, phonies & ect. ect! Stop comparing sack as Warminster to Philly or anywhere else please & thank u!

We're glad to see that you've left.

Saying he wants to smoke a cigarette first, then he'll surrender. And he says he needs medical attention. He says he's passing out and throwing up. The average person takes 7 mins to smoke a cigarette.... we shall see.

Thank you to all the wonderful and dedicated police officers, EMS, Red Cross workers, and anyone else involved in the 'standoff' that came to a safe conclusion this evening.

Suspect is in custody

Does anyone else find it to be an issue that it took the police damn near 8 hours to get one man with a gun when they had swat plus like 30 cops from all over... SWAT... Special weapons and tactics??? 8 hours and a death later way to go warminster PD and friends smfh

God damn. I think you are all morons. #1 comparing warminster to kensington. Really? #2 obviously mental illness is a problem! We have never as a people accepted mental illness as a medical condition as we should! #3 school shootings dont happen in the city! Mass shootings happen in the burbs where kids are white! Shootings in the city involving kids dont happen in schools! Look it up! The batshit crazy kids are raised in nice neighborhoods IN THE BURBS! #4 If your holed up in a house or charge a school with a knife or bat your not going to kill a lot of people! Guns are the problem!

Thank you to all officers, swat, EMS etc. for the work & protection today and tonight. Great job.

I agree. They did a great job! Why it took a long time is because you dont risk an officer or swat member to harm when talking can end it peacefully. Well done law enforcement!

Yeah peacefully with tear gas that my taxes pay for they could've been in and out of there in half the time especially considering there numbers this is not Kensington or north Philly he was one man with one gun in one building against multiple cops and swat members from multiple departments 8 hours is ridiculous and unnecessary

*shows
Every neighborhood us just like Kensington or North Philly as this craziness happens everywhere, no neighborhood is exempt.

If they would require all boys to go into the service, right out of high school, we would have more real men and a lot of these issues would be eliminated.

Great job Officers and I hope no one was hurt or killed, except the subject of course. Save our tax dollars.

Geez...you people watch way too much TV. There was absolutely no reason to breech that residence when the bad guy was the only one inside! SWAT did this by the book and it paid off. He stopped shooting within minutes of the police arriving on scene. So you idiots want the cops to use incindiery devices in an apartment complex!? Yes...flash bangs and "smoke grenades" are incindiery...one of those things goes off by a curtain or on upholstery, you have an inferno. Thank god the police were running this operation and the impatient patch folks weren't! Let the cops do their job...they don't second guess you at yours.

Thankfully the shooter is in custody and kudos to Tom Sofield for doing a great job at covering this story and keeping us informed.

Here is the latest information: http://lowersouthampton.patch.com/articles/elderly-neighbor-killed-by-gunfire-at-warminster-apartment-complex-suspect-surrenders

i'd like to know why the first sentence states "leaving a 90 year old dead", and then no mention of it whatsoever in the article???

I'd like to know why the school district sent out an email and didn't use the mass phone system that we paid for..updates will be available on the website. Sorry but most of us didn't even know about this until this morning. Yeah I have time to check the tv, patch, and email everyday before getting ready for work and getting the kids ready for school. JOB WELL DONE DR. CRESSMAN!

Maybe they didn't feel it was right to mass call people at like 10pm? There would be many people who would not appreciate that as well. Can't please everyone. There's always going to be someone with a complaint. And what would you have done had you known last night? Nothing. Just followed the story like everyone else.

Kudos to law enforcement for keeping everyone safe & apprehending the shooter! That's what is most important here.

The way the warminster police handled themselves with the 16 yr old and the bb gun (I think the riddled the neighborhood with about 50 bullets that day), I am surprised only one person was killed!

Good job Warminster Police! When will they have their awards ceremony?

Um someone died because of them "playing it buy the book" shit it was probably a cop who hit her everyone knows warminster cops are quick to pull a gun

as usual, the police caused more damage than the actual perpitraitor. This time, they killed an innocent senior citizen. Do you really believe he shot through his floor into the apartment below him? They found bullet damage a half mile away. Sorry folks. The police killed that woman.